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Fluoride suppliers refuse to tell Eureka Springs Arkansas what is in the fluoride

April 20th, 2012 1 comment

From Eureka Springs, Carroll-Boone Water District:

CBWD water operators have repeatedly requested information about contaminants in the sodium fluorosilicate they will have to order from overseas, as it is no longer available in the United States. Even though the product, used by other water districts, has an NSF (National Sanitation Foundation) stamp on it, CBWD wants a data sheet on it.

“We continue to be concerned that no supplier or manufacturer will furnish us the information required under the rules of NSF 60,” Allison wrote in a memo to the board. “… we are asking no more or less than what is submitted to NSF to get their approval. We all have an obligation as licensed operators to know what is being put in the water especially if it is a product not needed for potable water.”

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Fluoridation in Arkansas – Expensive and Complex

November 1st, 2011 2 comments

Adding fluoride costly

Thursday, October 27, 2011

By Kathryn Lucariello Carroll County News

EUREKA SPRINGS — Citing preliminary cost estimates, Brad Hammond and Chris Hall of McGoodwin, Williams & Yates engineering firm told the Carroll-Boone Water District board Thursday that implementing state-mandated fluoride additive to the drinking water supply could cost around $1.27 million.

Hammond said their fluoride study was 90 percent complete, and they are waiting on supply prices.

The two did a presentation which looked at recommendations for the number of dispensing facilities, the type of fluoride to be used and cost.

Comparing building one injection facility versus two, Hammond said one facility would be cheaper and require less operator time, but would require injection in the water transmission line below both the east and west plants and would need two injection points, increasing “operational complexity.”

The two-facility option would have a separate building at each plant with fluoride added to the clearwells and would allow for easier monitoring with equipment already in place. The cost would be higher, however, and it would increase operator time.

“The actual feeding takes a few minutes, but operators need to wear special clothing. It will be dusty, so they’ll need masks,” Hammond said. “That would be the only time of day they’re in that building.”

He said he, Hall and the Carroll-Boone staff had toured the Beaver Water District fluoride plant and received helpful information, mostly about the building. McGoodwin, Williams & Yates engineered the Beaver fluoride plant years ago.

Of the three types of fluoride available for drinking water, fluorosilicic acid liquid, sodium fluoride powder and sodium fluorosilicate powder, they were recommending the third for several reasons.

Although it has less available fluoride (61 percent as opposed to 79 percent for the liquid), it has far less solubility (.0762 grams per 100 milliliters versus an infinite amount for the liquid form).

“The less soluble it is, the harder it is to overfeed it,” Hammond said, which increases its safety.

Although Hammond had not yet identified suppliers or country of origin for the fluoride, he said of the three types, sodium fluorosilicate powder has 98 to 99 percent commercial purity, with the liquid at 20 to 30 percent.

It is also the most economical of the three and is the one used by the Beaver Water District, which switched over from using the liquid years ago after fumes from the liquid severely damaged the injection facility.

The powder comes in 50 lb. bags, he said, and the district would probably go through about two bags per day at the west plant.

He gave recommendations for size and locations of the buildings as well. Each building would have enough space for the mixers, waterlines and pallet storage.

A breakdown of total project cost, which Hammond stressed is only an estimate at this point, shows $20,000 for site work, $380,000 for the east plant, $230,000 for the west plant, $280,000 for the feeder equipment, $30,000 for yard piping and a possible $330,000 for engineering and contingencies, which add up to $1.27 million. Hammond could not break down the actual engineering cost, apart from contingencies, he said.

“If the Arkansas Natural Resources Commission funded this, they usually allow about 10 percent for engineering design and another 8 percent during construction, so probably 15 to 20 percent. But I hate to use percentages because they may not be accurate.”

He said annual cost of the fluoride itself would probably be about $20,000.

The $280,000 equipment cost is all that would be funded by Delta Dental, who offered to fund equipment for any drinking water supplier in the state having to add fluoride under the mandate. The district would bear the remainder of the cost.

He said he and Hall will return when they get estimates from equipment manufacturers.

In other business, the board:

* Approved the 2012 budget, with a 3-percent, across-the-board payroll increase for all staff. Office Manager Jim Allison reported a record year of water sales, even though production costs were also increased because of spring flooding and summer drought.

* Heard Plant Manager John Summers report 1.5 million gallons of sludge have been removed from the sludge ponds so far this year and that total cost will probably run around $68,000. It is applied to fields in Garfield at no cost to the district.

* Heard Hall report the engineers recommend holding off on building the Kings River crossing parallel waterline and instead focus on replacing a 200-foot section of 24-inch line with 36-inch line where the Highway Department is planning the Green Forest bypass. more efficiently.

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March 2nd, 2010 No comments

3-2-10

Dear Fluoride Debunkers,

This is in Today’s NY Times. It’s about Blytheville Arkansas’s water. That’s just down the road from Promised Land, where where I fell to earth.

http://projects.nytimes.com/toxic-waters/contaminants/ar/mississippi/ar0000365-blytheville-waterworks

Go here to the Environmental Working Group and sign up for their e-mails. They apparently broke this story.

Pretty amazing stuff. The truth is starting to boil over.

I talked with Matt Mosley, one of the administrators at the Blytheville Water Works. Matt says that they go through two 55-gallon drums of fluorosilicic acide each month and that after Hurricane Katrina the fluoride started coming from China. Blytheville has been fluoridated since the late 1960s, so I drank that water until I left there in 1965. Water there comes out of an aquifer that is 1,800 feet deep and which stretches from the Bootheel of Missouri down to Memphis. Whether the massive quantities of pesticides and other chemicals sprayed on crops can penetrate that deep is something I have no information on.

Let’s all make a special push to bring this issue into people’s consciousness.

If you really want to do something to fight fluoride, mail a Freedom of Information request like this one and send to your city or water works:

http://dealmortgage.net/fluoride-class-action/arkansas-fluoride-freedom-of-information-request.htm

Organize!  Send these notices out. Send copies to the mayors and city council people. Send copies to the newspaper. Find an attorney who has a conscience and ask him to sign them. Hold press conferences. Find a respected person to serve as spokesman.

Follow up as soon as they respond and send out a Notice of Potential Liability like this one:

http://dealmortgage.net/fluoride-class-action/notice-to-arkansas-of-liability-12-16-8.htm

Hold another press conference.

When your water district fails to send you an assay of raw scrubber liquor fresh from some Fluorida or Chinese phosphate fertilizer factory, send him a letter like this:

http://dealmortgage.net/fluoride-class-action/reply-to-everetts-refusal-to-do-full-assay-of-raw-fluoride-scrubber-liquor-6-29-9.pdf

If we all push simultaneously, we can accomplish something. Don’t leave it up to others. Organize your group. I would love to fly in and do an organizational seminar and rally. I would help you write up all these documents so you can get started. If you can recruit a local lawyer, I will work with him.

Conive. Plot. Conspire. “Kick at the night until it bleeds daylight.”

DO SOMETHING!

Sincerely,

James Robert Deal , Attorney, Loan Officer
James@JamesRobertDeal.com

PO Box 2276 Lynnwood WA 98036

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